Dinosaurs are cool

topic posted Mon, May 8, 2006 - 3:16 AM by  nathan
So what's your favorite Dinosaur? I really think Parasaurolophus, Styracosaurus, and Triceratops are neat.
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nathan
Portland
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    Mon, May 8, 2006 - 9:57 PM
    Dimetrodon gets major points, just on account of its kickass name.
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      Tue, May 9, 2006 - 12:06 AM
      I use to get Dimetrodons in the big bags of plastic dinos, they were a solid color usually red or yellow and hollow. I always thought they were what are called Spinosaurus, however doing some pokeing around I found "Dimetrodon was a member of a group of animals we call synapsids" and not a Dinosaur. but thats okay becouse all prehistoric animals are cool. I was really obsessed with Titanis walleri for a short time.
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        Tue, May 9, 2006 - 7:26 PM
        >> I use to get Dimetrodons in the big bags of plastic dinos, they were a solid color usually red or yellow and hollow

        Me too. :)

        But..... Dimetrodon wasn't a dinosaur; they're known as "mammal-like reptiles" (therapsids?).... ;) They lived during the Permian.

        I think my favorite dinosaurs are all raptor-like - Deinonychus, Velociraptor, etc.
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          Wed, May 10, 2006 - 3:40 PM
          Not dinosaurs? Why not? They sure look like dinosaurs.
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            Wed, May 10, 2006 - 3:50 PM
            Here's a good page from the American Museum of Natural History.
            paleo.amnh.org/fossil/class.html

            Scroll down and you'll see how they are all related.

            Dimetrodon is under Synapsida

            If I find a better link, I'll post it. :)
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              Wed, May 10, 2006 - 4:28 PM
              di- - metr- - - odon
              two lengths of teeth [mammalian char.]
              each *dinosaur* has a set of one kind of teeth and they have way better hips than dimetrodonts

              my favourite dinosaurs are against fossil fuels:
              bikesexual.org/dinos
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                Fri, May 12, 2006 - 7:46 PM
                > my favourite dinosaurs are against fossil fuels

                Did you check them out to make sure they don't have two lengths of teeth?
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                  Tue, July 18, 2006 - 11:29 PM
                  Dimetrodons and their cousins are interesting because they include the line that led to us. These were all "sail-backed" lizards which used those big sails to have a tremendous advantage over other reptiles in the regulation of their internal temperatures.

                  This probably caused them to develop more efficient but more finicky metabolisms that took advantage of and _needed_ those better-regulated temperatures. This in turn created an obvious evolutionary opportunity -- if they could regulate their internal temperatures to some extent _without_ using the big sails then that line would have an advantage in that they could grow a shorter sail.

                  Continue this process long enough, and you get the therapsids -- the mammal-like beasts that were the ancestors of the true mammals.

                  Sincerely Yours,
                  Jordan
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                    Wed, July 19, 2006 - 12:46 AM
                    So Jordan, Dimetrodons were synapsids, but they were also therapsids as well, right? Or were they pre-therapsid?
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                      Wed, July 19, 2006 - 8:56 AM
                      Dimetrodons were pelycosaurs, which was an early synapsid group flourishing around 290 million years ago, during the early Permian. The therapsids evolved from them or from similar synapsids (and were also synapsids themselves since the name refers to the skull structure). Dimetrodon was probably not endothermic (the whole point of the sail was almost certainly as a combined heat-absorber / heat-radiator depending on which way the animal stood relative to the direction of the sunlight), but the therapsids almost certainly were.

                      My point is that the sail-backed pelycosaurs, because the sail gave them a superior control over their own body temperature compared to other reptiles, may have evolved more efficient but more temperature-sensitive metabolic features, which in turn created an evolutionary "demand" for true endothermy as a way of supporting those features without growing the energy-costly and awkward sail. The therapsids also evolved to fill a smaller-animal niche; obviously a big obvious sail is not an accessory that any animal which needed to burrow or hide could afford to carry!

                      Mammals are anciently burrowers; perhaps one reason is that the original definition of a mammal may have been "a pelycosaur without a sail!"

                      - Jordan
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                        Thu, August 24, 2006 - 9:43 AM
                        "the whole point of the sail was almost certainly as a combined heat-absorber / heat-radiator depending on which way the animal stood relative to the direction of the sunlight"

                        Are you solely subscribed to this theory or can you entertain that the blood flow to these sails may have been for sexual signaling (read: a gangly and awkward teenaged boy Stegosaurus blushes at passing cute girl Stegosaurus...) Just a thought. ;o)


                        Oh, and, my fav is Diplodocus.

                        Namaste'
                        Tracy
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                          Fri, August 25, 2006 - 9:01 AM
                          Speaking of sex, how did they do it? For example stegosaurs. Did the male get on the female's back or did she turn over? Waddaya think?
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                            Thu, November 23, 2006 - 10:38 AM
                            Dinosaurs probably rubbed cloaca, like most reptiles and birds -- in other words, most male dinosaurs probably did not have penises. Most dinosaurs probably mated with the male mounting the female from behind, as do most reptiles and birds. In the case of the larger dinosaurs this probably was done "very carefully" as a slip could be fatal for one or both of them.

                            Stegosaurs could probably flex those dorsal plates and when mating the female probably flexed them into a non-harmful position so that her lover would not injure his own belly on her back.
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                          Tue, August 29, 2006 - 5:16 PM
                          Yes Diplodocus' are very cool. they must of had an amazing cirulatory system. a huge heart and lungs. how amazing to see a herd of them. good choice.
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                          Thu, November 23, 2006 - 10:40 AM
                          Stegosaurs, unlike Dimetrodons, _were_ dinosaurs. And the stegosaur back plates, while they may well have been used for signalling and thermal regulation as well, were almost certainly primarily defensive in nature. Their shape is far more practical for defense, unlike the dimetrodon sail.

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